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  <title>Sam Raimi&apos;s Mary Jane problem</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Because I went back and rewatched &lt;i&gt;Spider-Man&lt;/i&gt;, because whyyyyyyyyyyy did &lt;i&gt;Amazing Spider-Man&lt;/i&gt; have to make so little sense, you&apos;re getting a breakdown of why I don&apos;t like how it handled Mary Jane.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;So, the problem I have with Sam Raimi&apos;s Mary Jane is basically 90%  &amp;quot;pretty is not a character trait&amp;quot; and 10% &amp;quot;does this character ever get  to do anything but suffer?&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp; And I&apos;m willing to let some of the last  one go, because Raimi&apos;s &lt;i&gt;Spider-Man&lt;/i&gt; can be described as &amp;quot;everyone suffers, all the time&amp;quot; without much inaccuracy.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;After all, MJ&apos;s rotating slate of disrespectful, asshole dudes is not &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt;  much different from Peter&apos;s rotating slate of tragic father figures,  with the caveat that MJ&apos;s dudes try to kill her dreams while Peter&apos;s  fathers are more into the literal death thing.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;But the &amp;quot;pretty is not a character trait&amp;quot; part of it?&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Pretty is not a fucking character trait&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;  That should be like Writing 101.&amp;nbsp; If your answer to &amp;quot;Why should the  audience care about this character?&amp;quot; is &amp;quot;She&apos;s a knock-out,&amp;quot; you need to  sit in a corner until you understand where your parents went wrong in  raising you.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Harry wants to introduce her to his dad and starts picking at her  about the fact that she&apos;s not dressed how he wanted?&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;It&apos;ll be fine.&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;You&lt;/i&gt;  think I&apos;m pretty, don&apos;t you?&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; Not &amp;quot;You love me&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;I&apos;m awesome&amp;quot; or  &amp;quot;How big an asshole could he possibly be?&amp;quot;, but &amp;quot;He&apos;ll think I&apos;m  suitably attractive to be your girlfriend.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; When Aunt May talks about  the first time Peter and Mary Jane met, it&apos;s &amp;quot;You asked if she was an  angel.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; When Norman ruins Thanksgiving, he snarls at Harry about her  looks and what she could possibly want with a guy like him outside of  his bank account.&amp;nbsp; When she&apos;s attacked in the street, her assailants  pick her because she&apos;s pretty.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Is she funny?&amp;nbsp; Kind?&amp;nbsp; Weirdly angered by grammatical errors on  signs?&amp;nbsp; Did she go joyriding in Flash&apos;s fancy car after they broke up  because he can go to hell, but she&apos;s really going to miss those wheels?&amp;nbsp;  The movie does not expect us to give a damn.&amp;nbsp; Peter&apos;s set up as the  natural choice of boyfriend not because she&apos;s attracted to him or has a  great rapport with him or because they have a long-standing friendship  that&apos;s deepened into love, but because he&apos;s the only dude in her life  who doesn&apos;t treat her like a toy.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;And then the script seems to go out of its way to dump on her for not being good at anything else.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Peter runs into her in town?&amp;nbsp; Let&apos;s have her asshole boss chase her  down the sidewalk to yell at her for being a shitty cashier in public.&amp;nbsp;  Peter asks her how her audition went?&amp;nbsp; Let&apos;s talk about how she not only  didn&apos;t get the part, but that a) the part she didn&apos;t get was low-rent  and b) they told her she sucked and needed to go pump gas for a living.&amp;nbsp;  The only real outside interest she&apos;s given is acting--nothing else is  on the horizon as far as the script is concerned--and she doesn&apos;t even  get to take joy in that or be recognized as having talent.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;It&apos;s not enough to set her up as a damsel in distress once Osborn  starts rocketing around town and blowing shit up.&amp;nbsp; The script takes the  time to set her up as a figure of suffering, which is doubly sleazy when  the whole point of most of that suffering, in terms of plot, is to give  Peter something to comfort her over.&amp;nbsp; Mary Jane has bad things happen  to her; Peter rescues/comforts her.&amp;nbsp; Eventually, we understand, Mary  Jane will fall in love with him because he&apos;s patient and kind and no one  else will ever treat her as well.&amp;nbsp; It&apos;s gross, and cliched, and  aggravating.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;And none of this would have been difficult to avoid!&amp;nbsp; At all!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;You can absolutely accomplish the same plot goals without &lt;i&gt;humiliating&lt;/i&gt;  the character into the bargain.&amp;nbsp; After all, Peter gets to be fired over  his spider-manning and wind up working for a guy who tries to get him  arrested/stoned by an angry mob without it being treated as a  morale-killer.&amp;nbsp; He can cop to having less than $8 to spend on dinner in  New York City and still have a stupid smile on his face, but MJ&apos;s stuck  spending 90% of her time on-screen looking like she&apos;s about to burst  into tears.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;There&apos;s no reason--absolutely none--that Mary Jane couldn&apos;t have  landed her part.&amp;nbsp; She can be disappointed that shitty roles and spotty  gigs don&apos;t pay the bills and she still has to waitress to make ends  meet.&amp;nbsp; There can be friction between her and Harry because he&apos;s dating a  girl with two embarrassing ad-spots on her resume who&apos;s temping to pay  her rent, or because he doesn&apos;t see her successes as something to be  excited about.&amp;nbsp; Her boss can be a jerk who won&apos;t let her trade shifts  with a co-worker so that she can do a call-back.&amp;nbsp; But she&apos;d be doing the  thing she loved, and actually getting her shot.&amp;nbsp; The sacrifices or  setbacks would make some amount of emotional sense and be tied to  something important to her.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;And it would have been the easiest thing in the world to establish  them not just as having known each other for a long time, but having  been reasonably close friends.&amp;nbsp; Instead of Peter being the (borderline  stalker) guy she winds up with by sheer dint of him not being completely  awful, you can tweak a few lines and establish that they&apos;ve been  consistently involved in each other&apos;s lives.&amp;nbsp; A long history of  solidarity and companionship that turns into an awkward flirtation once  they&apos;re adults requires very little extra effort from the script and  would make more narrative sense than &amp;quot;I&apos;ve loved this girl I barely know  for over a decade, and now she&apos;s been beaten down enough by life to  settle!&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=beehammer&amp;ditemid=1107&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2018 21:17:57 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>On the many permutations of female characters</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;I think one of the biggest problems I have when it comes to writing  about female characters is the difference between the character herself  and the handling of the character by the (usually male)  writer/director/etc.*&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;You criticize a particular writer or director&apos;s handling of the  character, and it very easily gets read as a critique of the character  herself.&amp;nbsp; (Which may or may not be warranted, but it&apos;s a little besides  the point in that particular moment.)&amp;nbsp; I mean, I&apos;ve actually seen a few  essays now that complain about the fact that a director&apos;s paid a fair  amount of attention to making a female character a meaty character  instead of a literal prop (yay, right?), but then hasn&apos;t bothered to  actually do anything character-y with her.&amp;nbsp; Like, &amp;quot;Yeah!&amp;nbsp; You&apos;ve got a  complicated backstory and a morally ambiguous motivation and  relationships that don&apos;t involve the hero! Why don&apos;t you go stand in a  corner until the action is over and you can kiss somebody?&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;It&apos;s an improvement, but it kind of misses the point of asking for female characters that work as &lt;i&gt;characters&lt;/i&gt; instead of just some sort of weird ambulatory reward system for the male protagonists.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I think one of the most recent examples is Gamora, who&apos;s a fantastic  character.&amp;nbsp; I mean, the script literally gives her a hero&apos;s journey.&amp;nbsp;  She is unambiguously the moral center of the film.&amp;nbsp; She&apos;s the most  selfless and noble character in the entire movie.&amp;nbsp; Like, the Novas?&amp;nbsp; At  least are defending their home planet.&amp;nbsp; She&apos;s just out to save billions  of &lt;i&gt;strangers&lt;/i&gt; at &lt;i&gt;great personal cost&lt;/i&gt; because &lt;i&gt;fuck letting the genocidal maniacs win&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;  She&apos;s getting her crew together and going to save the goddamned galaxy,  in the face of her entire (death-cult) adopted family.&amp;nbsp; Everyone she  actually knows and cares for personally is lined up against her.&amp;nbsp; Or at  least, that&apos;s what&apos;s going on with the script.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The director somehow seems to find it way more interesting to focus  on whether or not a space-age dude-bro gets to kiss her.** We&apos;re stuck  watching &amp;quot;I May Not Have Explained The Consequences of Failure to This  Primate Well Enough, As He Keeps Being Distracted by the Possibility of  Mating with Me: The Gamora Story.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;And none of that is actually an indictment of the character!&amp;nbsp; The  treatment of the character is another story.&amp;nbsp; Which, honestly?&amp;nbsp; I get  it.&amp;nbsp; This can be a weird conversation to have.&amp;nbsp; Most of us are used to  dealing with a sort of closed system, where the person writing the  character and the person who created the character are the same person.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;But once you&apos;re talking about corporate-owned characters, the bets  are kind of off.&amp;nbsp; If JK Rowling or JRR Tolkien or Anne Rice fucks up  their characters, there&apos;s not a lot of daylight between authorial intent  and what&apos;s on the page.&amp;nbsp; But with television and movies and comics,  you&apos;re dealing not just with authors and artists and producers and  directors, and all of them having something to say about how a character  is presented.&amp;nbsp; The studios and networks are throwing their weight  around, too.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;You get a dyed-in-the-wool misogynist running DC, Lois Lane&apos;s going  to act very differently than she did before he took over.&amp;nbsp; You get a  writer who&apos;s into women&apos;s lib doing storylines for &lt;i&gt;Fantastic Four&lt;/i&gt;,  Susan Storm&apos;s going to be a lot less interested in cleaning up after  the boys and giggling ineffectually when Reed forgets they have kids  because Science!.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;One executive can be the force behind a show having this Amanda Waller:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;media-holder media-holder-draggable media-holder-figure&quot; 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class=&quot;tmblr-full&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://66.media.tumblr.com/e30df2d1304d7ff97374c585c78e9f7f/tumblr_inline_pi40tlnQb51smopg3_1280.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;image&quot; data-orig-width=&quot;500&quot; data-orig-height=&quot;224&quot; data-orig-src=&quot;https://66.media.tumblr.com/24af3eeb86a403d3d9cfcf0a21a1eca8/tumblr_inline_nbpk93cbk81smopg3.jpg&quot; /&gt;&lt;/figure&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;(Apologies  for not being able to find a screenshot of her personally ordering that  President Luthor be arrested for treason immediately after he tries to  make out with her/recruit her to his evil plan for post-apocalypse world  domination.&amp;nbsp; Because that happened.)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The original creators for both characters can start spinning in their  graves for all DC or Marvel care; they&apos;re the ones running the show  currently.&amp;nbsp; Hell, look at Gene Rodenberry&apos;s treatment of Kirk and Uhura  compared to Abrams&apos;s.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;And it is difficult not to hear &amp;quot;This character sucks&amp;quot; when someone  says &amp;quot;This director&apos;s portrayal of this character sucks.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; We&apos;re primed  to hear that.&amp;nbsp; Female characters get bagged on all the time, for pretty  much every reason under the sun.&amp;nbsp; Too feminine/not feminine enough? The  same character can be both!&amp;nbsp; Did the &lt;i&gt;exact same thing&lt;/i&gt; an  immediately-forgiven male character did? What an irredeemable bitch!&amp;nbsp;  Sexy-lady mouthpiece for the dude-writers&apos; anti-femme misogyny? Ugh,  Strong Female Characters are awful.&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Everyone&apos;s a Mary Sue!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;But it&apos;s not &lt;i&gt;especially&lt;/i&gt; difficult to write a script that  avoids lazy misogyny or being super-shitty to your female characters, so  I&apos;m probably going to keep complaining about directors and writers who  pull some bullshit at female characters&apos; expense for no real reason.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;*Which isn&apos;t to say that this is a problem unique to female  characters.&amp;nbsp; I mean, god knows how many pixels I&apos;ve spent over the years  talking about this effect with pretty much &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; long-standing character.&amp;nbsp; I think my personal favorite that this shows up with most frequently is &lt;i&gt;Batman&lt;/i&gt;, for fuck&apos;s sake.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;**Yes, Peter Quill.&amp;nbsp; I&apos;ve also written an embarrassing amount about  Peter Quill.&amp;nbsp; But that doesn&apos;t alter the fact that the movie  shortchanges Gamora&apos;s character to focus on his arguably less  interesting character &lt;i&gt;for no apparent reason&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=beehammer&amp;ditemid=943&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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